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RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - NICE - 07-13-2021
wielkie pandemie zawsze chyba były okazją do uświadomienia sobie, jakimi debilami tak naprawdę są ludzie
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - NICE - 07-20-2021
biorąc pod uwagę to jak niesłychanie ważną umiejętnością dla osiągnięcia czegokolwiek w życiu jest zachowywanie chęci do działania mimo porażek, czy wyrabianie w sobie nawyków myślowych nagradzających za próbowanie mimo porażek nie jest czymś wartym miliony dolarów?
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - tomakin - 07-20-2021
A jesteś pewien, że "nagroda myślowa" działa?
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - NICE - 08-05-2021
jako mężczyźni mamy chyba wbudowany w mózgu wykrywacz dostępności seksualnej u kobiety, z tego powodu porno jest takie popularne, ale coś podobnego istnieje chyba też w przypadku wykrywania osób gotowych udzielić pomocy.
gdy zobaczymy że ktoś udzielił komuś beznteresownej pomocy, pojawia się u nas takie specyficzne, przyjemne uczucie, mimo że sami akurat nie potrzebujemy pomocy
moja teoria brzmi, że jest w ludzkim mózgu pewna określona ilość takich twardo kodowanych modułów wykrywających pewne zachowania w otoczeniu, a poznać można je pewnie między innymi przez lekturę portalów clickbaitowych
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - NICE - 12-08-2021
Idę na studia dietetyczne. Jeśli cokolwiek się w życiu liczy to to ile masz kwasów tłuszczowych w błonach komórkowych. Zarobki też niezłe, a zawód przyszłościowy. O ile pandemia nie sprowadzi nas niedługo do epoki kamienia łupanego
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - tomakin - 12-08-2021
Papiery dietetyka są fajne, ale nie wiem, czy do tego trzeba aż całych studiów.
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - NICE - 12-09-2021
Dr dietetyk Damian Parol pisze że może wejść ustawa regulująca zawód dietetyka i wtedy tylko studia będą dawały możliwość pracy
https://www.damianparol.com/gdzie-studiowac-dietetyke/
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - tomakin - 12-09-2021
Jakoś nie uśmiecha mi się poświęcanie 5+ lat życia, żeby móc przed samą emeryturą zmienić zawód.
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - Brain fog - 12-15-2021
''Myślę, o tym, że' tak DeepL translator relatywnie dobrze przetłumaczył stronke o Keto na potrzebie dyskusji na discordzie:
Low carbohydrate diets
People have it in them to want to believe in fairy tales. There's that little child in each of us who longs for Santa Claus. In this case, the fact that it's not true what all those scientists and doctors say about tasty food, that it's unhealthy, it's one big conspiracy, what tastes good to me must be healthy, I prefer to believe some blogger or a guy by accident recording videos on youtube, than thousands of scientists.
We have it encoded somewhere in our subconscious that we believe in the beautiful lie and reject the ugly truth. Every other person who smokes cigarettes will die from it? E, it will never happen to me. One person in a million wins the lotto? Today could be my lucky day!
Every now and then a new super miracle-diet comes along, and every time it's the same pattern: all the scientists are wrong, I'm right, you can eat tasty, unhealthy things because they're actually healthy. And the crowds believe, because how not to believe? After all, it's clear that if someone has been studying dietetics for 30 years, they don't know it. The one who read something on a blog and then recorded a video of it on youtube is right.
Remember the hysteria over the Atkins diet? It was exactly the same scheme, the same arguments as with "paleo", "keto", "Dukan" or "optics" diets. The dietary principles of these inventions are not particularly different either. I am writing about Atkins, because there is a beautiful story connected with him. I have described it many times and probably I will do it again. Very rarely in the history of medicine does such a wonderful coincidence happen.
Research on low-carbohydrate diets in atherosclerosis
A group of scientists conducted a study on a diet similar to Ornish's (actually almost identical, largely vegan). They measured patients' coronary artery blood flow, gave them dietary recommendations, supplements (omega 3, B vitamins), and waited. After a year, they were going to measure the blood flow again to see if indeed the atherosclerosis would regress.
But as we all know, scientists and doctors are a bunch of idiots, and the guy who writes the book on the hidden diet is right. Yes, Atkins, although we have his equivalent in our country. The timing of the study coincided with the Atkins book coming on the market. Some patients decided they weren't going to listen to these dull nutritionists because they, the patients, had discovered the TRUTH and knew how to get rid of atherosclerosis. They began to overeat what there Atkins recommends: fat is our friend, carbohydrates are evil, cholesterol is the cure for all diseases. The scientists said nothing, but rubbed their hands with joy. Not only would they test whether the Ornish diet actually worked, but science would finally know what effect the Atkins diet actually had.
The effects were easy to predict, but their magnitude surprised everyone. On the vegan diet, the myasthenia gravis regressed by as much as 40%, which is how much the blood flow increased. In just one year! Whereas on Atkins almost exactly the opposite, one year was enough for blood flow in the arteries of the heart to decrease by about 40%. I would give a lot to see the faces of those people who believed that the author of the booklet knows more about dietetics than all the nutritionists in the world. When they saw that just one year was enough to almost kill them. Link to the study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11108325
And it happens every time, unfortunately. Sensationalist articles about how such diets help is making logic the daughter of Corinth. You have to read quite carefully, know what the correlations are, to not fall into the trap, to see where the error is. It is always there. An example: if you type "low carb atherosclerosis" into google, the first few dozen pages of results are blogs where people write that low-carb diets have been "proven" to cleanse the arteries. However, if you look at the study they're relying on, it looks a little different. It turned out that there were very specific changes in one of the blood vessels, the kind that occurs as a result of hypertension. That, in turn, results from being overweight. Three completely different diets were tested in the study, and the researchers showed that no matter what one ate, if there was little of it and the person lost weight, these particular specific changes would regress. Link to the study the bloggers are relying on:
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/121/10/1200.full
Just a reminder, this very study is on the first pages of google results and everyone as one makes the same mistake when interpreting it. A stupid, even embarrassing error, but apparently people want to read it, want to be lied to in this way, hence the popularity.
Sometimes you can see articles where the authors cite studies conducted on diabetics in whom ketogenic diets reduced the risk of heart disease. Where is the catch? This time the key word is "diabetes". Such a diet can indeed help with severely advanced type I diabetes, but somewhat in the same way that chemotherapy helps with cancer. However, no one claims that chemotherapy is a healthy thing because it helped a seriously ill person.
The condition of the arteries of Inuit and Masai people
You may learn that there is no heart disease among the Inuit. Only that there are. The stories about their amazing health are simply made up, literally. Their source is adventure books written by a traveler who fantasized about the wonderful health of the inhabitants of the Arctic Circle. The Inuit were - and still are - a people with a tragically low life expectancy and a dramatically high rate of lifestyle diseases.
The nail in the coffin is the fact that with the adoption of "Western" customs and diet, heart disease rates are declining among the Inuit:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12535749
And what about the Masai? After all, they eat mostly meat and are healthy!
No, they aren't. Despite extreme activity that should protect them from disease, despite many generations of natural selection, their blood vessels were overgrown with atherosclerotic lesions comparable to those of an aging US citizen sitting in front of the TV all day eating hamburgers:
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-abstract/95/1/26/167903
This can go on and on, "proof" that some diet of this type is healthy, demonstration of error. Another proof, another error. But people want to believe, very strongly they do, which is why, unfortunately, such "evidence" will keep coming. This is the reason why only those who have mastered both the basics of medicine and methodology should take up this kind of thing. It is very easy to fall into the trap of "since carp is a fish and pike is a fish, so carp is a pike".
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
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NiklasBla — Yesterday at 11:59 PM
Idk man not saying im super confident that keto is good but the author doesnt inspire confidence in me that keto is bad. He talks about methological errors but at the same time makes an obvious one when talking about the iniuts. Their diet in the decades before importing food was extremely toxic due to all the chemicals and microplastics that swam up north from the US and canada and they almost died out due to that, thats well established. Yet the author tries to blame that on the lack of carbs..
Klesh — Today at 12:03 AM
ok so we can exclude this sample of people from the analysis
but its same with al l tribes on keto like diets
Masaiis
NiklasBla — Today at 12:05 AM
Idk who the masaiis are, he may or may not be making another logical error here, fact is he seems very agenda driven lol, just always is the problem with everything nutrition related
Klesh — Today at 12:05 AM
but in the end its not my business what people eat, so anyone - feel free
NiklasBla — Today at 12:05 AM
Thats why i say try out and do what works
Klesh — Today at 12:07 AM
Anyways wasnt even close to the therapeutic effect KETO fanatics promise
and that what the author wants to prove + if there is nothing more relevant he just stays on topic and discusses nutrition
Klesh— Today at 12:09 AM
never heard, source?
RE: Zapodaj coś o czym myślisz - tomakin - 12-15-2021
spal ich, niech spłoną... kurde
